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Why do people keep up the lie that the USA is a melting pot?
Replies: 18Last Post Dec. 2, 2009 1:26am by whoisabs
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In a melting pot all the small parts of something new blend into the large part, while adding something small to the whole.

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Sounds like the definition of society in general.

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I actually like how you put it in that viewpoint/terms, but it's still a melting pot if you take the smaller parts and look at where they came from. Not everything is going to blend into making a bigger, larger group. :/

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The USA is more likened to a tossed salad than a melting pot.  Sure the leafy greens come in a few varieties, as do the various cheeses, and the other parts of the salad.  Sure each item in the salad can be said to add something to the whole, but that doesn't mean that any part of the salad changes when you add a new part in.

You also have to remember that in various parts of "american" society one of the most egregious things that you could ever do is call yourself american and/or speak english, etc.

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People call NYC a melting pot, not the US.

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Quote: from zacura at 7:57 pm on Nov. 27, 2009

People call NYC a melting pot, not the US.

Try again retard.

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Quote: from whoisabs at 8:23 pm on Nov. 27, 2009

Quote: from zacura at 7:57 pm on Nov. 27, 2009

People call NYC a melting pot, not the US.

Try again retard.


oh boy! A simpleton! Please, do explain (not really)

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Quote: from zacura at 8:41 pm on Nov. 27, 2009

Quote: from whoisabs at 8:23 pm on Nov. 27, 2009

Quote: from zacura at 7:57 pm on Nov. 27, 2009

People call NYC a melting pot, not the US.
 

 Try again retard.


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oh shit you're retarded

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Melting_pot#United_States

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Wow. Can you read? At all? Really...

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I notice a lack of you supporting your shit claim that the term melting pot only applies to NYC as opposed to the USA at large.

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Go easy on the poor nooblet.

I agree with you though. The salad bowl analogy best fits the US.

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People immigrate to America to make money not friends. Who wants to assimilate with the racist majority anyways.

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because the myth of the melting pot helps erase structural racism and helps 'multi-culti' america sleep at night believing that we live in a post civil rights era.

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The melting pot describes what happened in the US in the early 20th century pretty accurately - various European ethnic groups came together and eventually intermixed so now that many whites in the US are largely European mutts.

But when you try to apply it with whites, blacks, Asians, mestizos, etc., it's obviously a myth. But who knows. Maybe in 100 years, it will happen in the way the various European ethnic groups started coming together 100 years ago and intermixing?

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Quote: from Bud2400 at 8:15 pm on Dec. 1, 2009

The melting pot describes what happened in the US in the early 20th century pretty accurately - various European ethnic groups came together and eventually intermixed so now that many whites in the US are largely European mutts.

But when you try to apply it with whites, blacks, Asians, mestizos, etc., it's obviously a myth.  But who knows.  Maybe in 100 years, it will happen in the way the various European ethnic groups started coming together 100 years ago and intermixing?


I do not agree with your first paragraph's assertion. A melting pot involves acculturation and assimilation. This can happen with or without heavy intermarriage between peoples. African-Americans are culturally and ethically American, so they have been both acculturated and assimilated--"melted" into the pot. So, if these people have been Americanized and become part of the mixing part, then it could not have been that your point, in its entirety, could be true.

America's treatment of immigrants validates its policy. Whether or not it is a fully functioning melting pot in irrelevant as its ultimate goal is to become as close to one as possible. If Britain were to have Scottish, French, Irish, Bulgarian, etc in its borders, it would still not be a "mixing pot" because of its policy that it is not one.


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